Address: 22, Lyons Lane, Chorley
John and his wife Jane lived in Chorley, firstly on Halliwell Street and then Lyons Lane from the mid-1840s onwards.
Marriage: 28 Sep 1840 St Andrew, Leyland, Lancashire, England
John Yates - (X), of full age, Boiler maker, Bachelor, Whittle-le-Woods
Jane Marshall - (X), of full age, Spinster, Whittle-le-Woods
Groom's Father: Thomas Yates, Boiler maker
Bride's Father: William Marshall, Gardener
Witness: Elizabeth Yates, (X); Nathan Birchall
Married by Banns by: Gardner Baldwin, Vicar
Register: Marriages 1837 - 1843, Page 126, Entry 251
Source: Original register at Lancashire Archives
Baptismal records for their children are recorded below: -
Baptism: 13 Dec 1840 St George, Chorley, Lancashire, England
Margaret Yates - [Child] of John Yates & Jane
Abode: Chorley Occupation: Boiler Maker
Baptised by: John Kendall
Register: Baptisms 1836 - 1850, Page 90, Entry 716
Source: LDS Film 1526077
1841 Census John and Jane Yates @ Halliwell street |
In 1841 John was working as a Boiler Maker living on Halliwell Street in the town centre but by 1848 the family had moved to Lyons Lane.
Baptism: 19 Sep 1842 St George, Chorley, Lancashire, England
Mary Jane Yates - Daughter of John Yates & Jane
Abode: Chorley Occupation: Boiler Maker
Baptised by: John Kendall
Register: Baptisms 1836 - 1850, Page 133, Entry 1061
Source: LDS Film 1526077
Baptism: 9 Nov 1845 St George, Chorley, Lancashire, England
Yates Yates - Son of John Yates & Jane
Abode: Chorley Occupation: Boiler Maker
Baptised by: John Kendall
Register: Baptisms 1836 - 1850, Page 214, Entry 1711
Source: LDS Film 1526077
Baptism: 22 Jul 1847 St George, Chorley, Lancashire, England
John Yates - [Child] of John Yates & Jane
Abode: Lyons Lane Occupation: Boiler Maker
Notes: P written in left margin
Baptised by: Henry Thos. Fletcher
Register: Baptisms 1836 - 1850, Page 252, Entry 2011
Source: LDS Film 1526077
1848 Slater's Directory of Chorley |
The Inn was first opened in the late 1840s and whilst these days it is no longer a public house, having finally closed its doors in 1985, the building still stands and is the home of an electrical retail outlet. The listed landlords at the Inn were John Yates (1851-63), Henry Draper (1863-70), Martha Draper (1870-74), Thomas Lilley (1879-1882), Henry Lilley (1891-1924) and Allan Tillotson (1936-43).
Baptism: 12 Jan 1851 St George, Chorley, Lancashire, England
Robert Yates - [Child] of John Yates & Jane
Abode: Lyon's Lane Occupation: Boiler Maker
Baptised by: J. Stock
Register: Baptisms 1850 - 1866, Page 22, Entry 174
Source: LDS Film 1526077
1851 Manney Directory - Beer Retailers Lyons Lane |
1851 Manney Directory - Boiler Maker Lyons Lane |
1854 Mannex Directory - Beer Retailers John Yates |
1854 Mannex Directory - Boiler Makers John Yates |
1855 Slater's Directory Beer Retailers John Yates |
1855 Slater's Directory Boiler Makers John Yates |
1858 Slater's Directory Beer Retailers John Yates |
1855 Slater's Directory Boiler Makers John Yates |
On the 1861 Slater's Directory both John Yates and Henry Draper were recorded as beer retailers living on Lyons Lane; John was also recorded as a Boiler Maker as shown below.
On the census of the same year the record confirms that the families lived next door to one another at the 22nd and 23rd properties along Lyons Lane on the enumerator's route (see below). This order placed Henry Yates at no.22, the site of the Green Man Still.
1861 Census John Yates (Boiler Maker) and Henry Draper (Saddler & Beer Seller) |
On the census above it's possible that the Drapers and Yates were living within the same property on Lyons Lane with the added annotation of "Mill", which relates to the Victoria Mill that was located behind the Inn. The only remaining part of the Mill now is the chimney, which is part of the Morrison's Superstore.
In 1863 John Yates died at the age of only 42 years leaving a widow, Jane and their six children.
John Yates' Probate record of 1863 |
Following his death the family moved from 22 Lyons Lane; the children by this stage were in their teenage years. In 1871 Isabella Yates was working as a servant for the Registrar of Marriages Joseph Hindle, living at 30 St Thomas's Road. Yates Yates followed in his father's footsteps as a Boiler Maker and by 1871 had married and was living in Little Bolton.
In 1864 following John Yates' death the below unsuccessful application was made to the licensing court in Chorley to elevate the Boiler Maker's Arms to Public House status.
In 1864 following John Yates' death the below unsuccessful application was made to the licensing court in Chorley to elevate the Boiler Maker's Arms to Public House status.
Newspaper clipping from October 1864 with thanks to Paul Topping for posting this on Chorley Then and Now |
1869 Slater's Directory
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1871 Census |
1874 Mannex Directory |
1881 Census |
1882 Barrett's Directory |
1891 Census |
1901 Census |
Having been refused a full licence as a pub in 1864 when operating as a beer house it wasn't until 1891 that there is reference to the occupation of the resident, a Henry Lilley as a "Publican", so I suspect it was finally granted a spirit licence and became a public house in the 1880s. There is no reference to the name Green Man Still until the 1911 census when the addition of "Public House" was also added to the record (see below).
1911 Census |
1921 Census Henry Lilley |
Innkeeping seemed to be in the blood of the Tillotsons, as Allan grew up in the Borough Arms where his father, Allan Tillotson Snr was landlord in the 1880-90s until his death in 1897.
During the war the local coal merchant used to keep his horse Dobbin in the stable at the back of the pub and it seems likely that the advert below relates to the same merchant.
Lancashire Evening Post 01 November 1946 |
Hi
ReplyDeleteI have photographs of draughtsman's drawings dated 1920 that shows the alteration plans for The Green Man Still and also the architects drawing of the outside when it was finished for 1921.... Would you like me to send them to you for inclusion?? I remember the pub well as it was in the 1970s and as it is now as i live in Chorley. Thank you. Rod Fraser